Transcript: Former Rep. Liz Cheney on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan," Oct. 27, 2024

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The pursuing is simply a transcript of an question and reply pinch erstwhile Republican Rep. Liz Cheney connected "Face nan Nation pinch Margaret Brennan" that aired connected Oct. 27, 2024.


MARGARET BRENNAN: And we're backmost pinch erstwhile Wyoming Congresswoman Liz Cheney, who has been campaigning for Vice President Kamala Harris. Welcome backmost to Face nan Nation.

FORMER REP. LIZ CHENEY: Thank you. Great to beryllium pinch you, Margaret.

MARGARET BRENNAN: I person a number of questions for you, but I do want to commencement wherever I near disconnected pinch Senator Vance. He responded to your characterization of him arsenic a misogynistic pig by attacking your begetter and his domiciled successful nan Iraq War, Donald Trump has besides done so. Do you attraction to respond?

LIZ CHENEY: Look, I deliberation that they are doing everything they tin to effort to distract from nan truth that nan group who cognize Donald Trump best, including retired Four Star Marine General John Kelly, who is simply a golden prima father, person travel retired and said very intelligibly and very straight to nan American group that Donald Trump is not fit, that Donald Trump himself, opinionated adjacent nan graves of our fallen work members, says things for illustration they are suckers and losers. We each watched connected January 6, erstwhile Donald Trump sat successful nan eating room adjacent to nan Oval Office for hours, for hours, and watched group pinch his flags and his name, a mob he had sent to nan Capitol, he watched them brutally hit constabulary officers and invade our Capitol. His ain vice president is not voting for him. Chiefs of unit aren't voting for him, secretaries of defense, National Security Adviser so, you know, this is wholly unprecedented. I don't think, surely successful my lifetime, astir apt successful American history, person you had a business wherever truthful galore of nan apical officials of nan erstwhile president are saying they won't ballot for him. And I deliberation you know, we're going to perceive continued assaults and rhetoric from Donald Trump and JD Vance to effort to screen that up. But astatine nan extremity of nan day, it's desperation nan American group are- are overmuch smarter than that and- and they spot done it. I'm confident.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Given really outspoken you person been, are you concerned astir your individual information if Donald Trump wins this election, arsenic he good whitethorn do?

LIZ CHENEY: Look, first of all, I americium very assured that Vice President Harris is going to triumph this election. It's what we're seeing each crossed nan country, nan benignant of perfectly unprecedented conjugation that's coming together to support her. You know, we're each going to tally done nan tape, and cipher is overconfident here, but I do judge she's going to beryllium nan adjacent President of nan United States. And I deliberation that Donald Trump has ushered unit into our authorities successful a measurement that we haven't seen before. Any unit is unacceptable. Certainly, nan assassination effort connected nan erstwhile president was wholly unacceptable and evidently should ne'er person happened. But erstwhile you person a business where, you know, Donald Trump suggests that group who disagree pinch him ought to beryllium put earlier subject tribunals, that nan erstwhile president of nan chief- Joint Chiefs of Staff should beryllium hanged for treason, and his moving mate, you know, doubles down connected it, you know, I deliberation that that tells you that you're dealing pinch a man who doesn't person immoderate conscience, and nan group who worked astir intimately pinch him cognize that, and truthful I'm assured that he's going to beryllium defeated adjacent week.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We're seeing a really absorbing gender disagreement successful this election, and I cognize you've been appealing to group to ballot their conscience, and you said they ne'er person to opportunity a connection to anybody astir who they really do ballot for. Yesterday, erstwhile First Lady Michelle Obama said thing similar. Take a listen.

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FORMER FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA: If you are a female who lives successful a family of men that don't perceive to you aliases worth your opinion, conscionable retrieve that your ballot is simply a backstage matter. Regardless of nan governmental views of your partner, you get to choose. 

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MARGARET BRENNAN: I person to opportunity it's a small striking. It sounds a small 1950s aliases 1970s. Are you really proceeding from female voters that they're acrophobic to show their spouses who they're voting for?

LIZ CHENEY: Yeah, you know, what we're seeing is truthful important and truthful interesting. You've seen a existent conjugation of women who are pro-life and pro-choice travel together to support vice president Harris, and that's because we've seen immoderate of nan conscionable nan draconian laws that person been passed successful places for illustration Texas and North Carolina that are preventing women from getting lifesaving wellness care, preventing women from getting aesculapian attraction that you cognize will guarantee that, if they person a miscarriage, that they tin person babies again, conscionable fundamentally a group of circumstances that can't beryllium maintained. And so, you person a increasing conjugation supporting Vice President Harris. You surely person had galore Republicans who are speaking retired to endorse her, which, again, is unprecedented. And location are besides galore Republicans and independents who are saying, look, you know, I don't want to bring nan wrath of, you know, Donald Trump and JD Vance down connected me. So, I'm going to ballot my conscience. I'm not going to talk astir it. And we, you know, obviously, promote that your ballot is simply a concealed vote. You should do what you cognize is correct and- and I deliberation you're going to have, frankly, a batch of men and women who will spell into nan voting booth and will ballot their conscience, will ballot for Vice President Harris. They whitethorn not ever opportunity thing publicly, but nan results will speak for themselves. 

MARGARET BRENNAN: It's an absorbing conjugation you're talking astir successful position of nan pro-life activity and wherever we are now. And you're talking astir a conjugation here. How do you explicate to personification astatine location who whitethorn agree, arsenic you do, pinch nan pro-life position that abortion is murder, and reconcile that pinch putting that condemnation speech and voting for Vice President Harris. How did you do that?

LIZ CHENEY: Yeah, I don't deliberation it's astir putting convictions aside. I deliberation it's astir looking astatine nan reality connected nan crushed of what's happened since Roe was overturned. And again, erstwhile you person a spot for illustration Texas wherever women request lifesaving care, you know, possibly it's a female who's had a miscarriage and she whitethorn beryllium bleeding retired and she cannot get a DNC, she can't get nan attraction that she needs, because there's interest that possibly that attraction has been criminalized. And you know, you person a business besides successful Texas wherever nan Attorney General is suing, virtually he's suing truthful that he tin spot nan aesculapian records of women who person sought abortions. And you know, this is coming from group who support Donald Trump, and Donald Trump won't fto anybody spot his ain aesculapian records. So, nan thought that that, you know, you've sewage those kinds of policies and authorities laws being put successful spot is really mobilizing women to say, look, you know, you don't person to wantonness being pro-life, but this benignant of circumstance, this benignant of really abhorrent business wherever women can't get aesculapian attraction they need, that conscionable can't spell on.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Do you deliberation that Vice President Harris going to nan Ellipse connected Tuesday, arsenic she plans to do, to make her closing statement is really nan astir effective one, because we spot successful our polling that connected some sides of nan aisle, each statement is blaming nan different for undermining democracy. Why do you deliberation that would thief put Harris complete nan people and thief win?

LIZ CHENEY: Yeah, I deliberation it's truthful interesting. I deliberation erstwhile you- erstwhile you look astatine nan polling, first of all, group person to remember, this is nan first statesmanlike predetermination post-January 6, and truthful you know, you've got, successful fact, galore of nan aforesaid group who were promising a reddish activity successful 2022 doing nan aforesaid point now, we're not going to spot it now. We didn't spot it then. And what Vice President Harris has done, I've watched her do it. I've sat adjacent to her connected nan shape arsenic she does it. She talks astir a full scope of issues. She talks astir market prices, she talks astir women's wellness care, she talks about, you know, Donald Trump's tariff policies, which are massively inflationary, and astatine nan aforesaid time, reminds everybody, you person to person a president who obeys nan norm of law.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We're hitting a difficult break here. Thank you, erstwhile Congresswoman Cheney, we'll beryllium correct back.

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