Trump mass deportation plan could cost billions a year

With 9 days until Election Day, erstwhile President Trump has stepped up his attacks connected nan Biden-Harris administration's grounds connected forbidden migration and pledged that, if elected, he'll behaviour nan largest deportation successful American history.

There are much than 11 cardinal undocumented immigrants surviving successful nan United States.…about 3% of nan population. Nearly 80% of them person lived successful nan state for a decade aliases more.

How realistic is this wide deportation run promise? What would beryllium nan quality and financial cost? 

We took these questions to 1 of nan group Donald Trump has said would subordinate him if he wins a 2nd word – Tom Homan… who led migration enforcement during nan first Trump management erstwhile thousands of migrant children were separated from their parents astatine nan border.

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Tom Homan: I perceive a batch of group say, you know, nan talk of a wide deportation is racist. It's-- it's-- it's threatening to migrant community. It's not threatening to nan migrant community. It should beryllium threatening to nan forbidden migrant community. But connected nan heels of [a] historical forbidden migration crisis. That has to beryllium done.

At nan Republican National Convention this summer… Tom Homan was nan proud pitchman of wide deportation…

Tom Homan speaking astatine nan RNC: I sewage a connection to nan millions of forbidden aliens that Joe Biden's released successful our country. You amended commencement packing now. 

Over 3 decades, he worked his measurement up from separator patrolman to acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement – nan agency known arsenic "ICE" -- during nan first twelvemonth and a half of nan Trump administration. 

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This predetermination cycle, erstwhile President Trump has mentioned wide deportation astatine astir each rally…

Donald Trump: We will statesman nan largest deportation cognition successful nan history of our state because we person nary choice

Cecilia Vega: What would nan largest deportation successful American history look for illustration to you?

Tom Homan: Well, lemme show you what it's not going to beryllium first. It's not gonna be-- a wide expanse of neighborhoods. It's not gonna beryllium building attraction camps. I've publication it all. It's ridiculous.

Cecilia Vega: But if wide deportation is not going to be, arsenic you said, monolithic sweeps and attraction camps

Tom Homan: It'll beryllium concentrated

Cecilia Vega: What is it?

Tom Homan: They'll beryllium targeted arrests. We'll cognize who we're going to arrest, wherever we're astir apt to find 'em based connected galore inve-- you know, investigative processes.

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Former President Trump's moving mate JD Vance said it would beryllium reasonable to deport a cardinal group a year…

Trump's apical migration advisor Stephen Miller told a blimpish assemblage that deportees would beryllium removed from nan state successful a monolithic subject aerial operation… 

Stephen Miller : So you drawback forbidden immigrants and past you move them to nan staging crushed and that's wherever nan planes are waiting for national rule enforcement to past move those illegals home. You deputize nan National Guard to transportation retired migration enforcement 

Cecilia Vega: Stephen Miller said that this will impact large-scale raids.

Tom Homan: He-- I-- I don't usage nan word "raids," but you're astir apt talking astir work-site enforcement operations-- which this management beautiful overmuch stopped

Cecilia Vega: Workplace enforcement, that's a roundup.

Tom Homan: And that's gonna beryllium necessary. Work-site enforcement operations conscionable not astir group who's moving illegally successful nan state and companies that prosecute 'em that's gonna undercut their title that has U.S. national employees. It's wherever we find a batch of trafficking cases you know, women and children who are forced into forced labour to salary disconnected their smuggling fees. 

A study by nan American Immigration Council recovered that wide deportation could consequence successful nan removal of millions of construction, hospitality and agriculture workers-- reducing nan GDP by $1.7 trillion.

Cecilia Vega: Can you conscionable limit it to criminals and nationalist information threat though?

Tom Homan: If I'm successful complaint of this, my priorities are nationalist information threats and nationalist information threats first.

Cecilia Vega: First implies others follow, though, right?

Tom Homan: Absolutely.

Cecilia Vega: So crippled that retired for me. What's nan scenario

Tom Homan: It's not OK to participate a state illegally, which is simply a crime. That's what drives forbidden immigration, erstwhile there's nary consequences. The Biden-Harris management has proven this, You tin get to nan border, move yourselves in, get released wrong 24 hours

Cecilia Vega: So you are carrying retired a targeted enforcement operation. Grandma's successful nan house. She's undocumented. Does she get arrested too?

Tom Homan: It depends

Cecilia Vega: Which

Tom Homan: Let-- fto nan judge decide. We're gonna region group that-- a judge's bid deported.

Homan's proposal that grandma mightiness look apprehension would people a awesome displacement successful policy. Under President Biden, ICE is mostly targeting those deemed nationalist information aliases nationalist information threats — and group who conscionable crossed nan separator illegally.

• Mass deportation would travel pinch hefty bill, require much manpower, migration experts say

The mostly of nan 4 cardinal deportations carried retired by nan Biden management person occurred astatine nan confederate border, wherever an unprecedented influx of migrants created scenes of chaos, a humanitarian situation and 1 of Vice President Harris' biggest governmental vulnerabilities.

Homan says wide deportation is nan solution.

Cecilia Vega: How galore group would beryllium deported?

Tom Homan: That's-- that's-- you can't reply that question.

Cecilia Vega: Why not?

Tom Homan: How galore officers do I have?

Cecilia Vega: Is location a written scheme connected this?

Tom Homan: Not that I cognize of.

Cecilia Vega: If there's nary memo, if there's nary plan, is this afloat baked?

Tom Homan: We've done it before. 

Cecilia Vega: But not-- a deportation of this scale.

Tom Homan: ICE is very bully astatine these operations. This is what they do

To spot what they do, we went to Silver Spring, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, DC … wherever earlier this month, ICE agents gathered successful a parking batch earlier dawn …

Cecilia Vega and Matt Elliston 60 Minutes

It's what ICE does each day… and has been doing for galore years.

Their task this morning-- find and apprehension undocumented immigrants pinch criminal histories including assault, robbery, supplier and weapon convictions...

… identified by ICE arsenic a threat to nationalist safety

Matt Elliston, head of ICE's Baltimore section office, told america nan extremity was to drawback nan first target by surprise..

Cecilia Vega: You've been f-- watchin' him? He-- you know-- you cognize his routine?

Matt Elliston: Yeah, we cognize his routine. We've been watchin' him for a mates days.

• Examining nan wide deportation Trump vows to transportation retired if he wins nan election

Sure enough, a achromatic van soon appeared to prime him up. But they didn't get very far…

The man they arrested was a 24-year-old Guatemalan pinch an battle conviction, who had been ordered deported by a judge 5 years ago. 

The ICE agents discovered that nan driver of nan van was besides successful nan state illegally. They told america he'd been deported erstwhile before.

Matt Elliston: He has nary criminal record. He was picking up his worker to spell to work. It doesn't make consciousness to discarded a detention furniture connected personification for illustration that erstwhile we person different felons to spell retired and get today. 

Cecilia Vega: A lotta folks mightiness perceive you and opportunity like, "Hold on, you've sewage an undocumented migrant who comes face-to-face pinch ICE, who's responsible for deporting folks from this country, and you fto him go?"

Matt Elliston: We utilize migration rule to heighten nationalist safety. It's not to conscionable aimlessly apprehension anyone we travel across, right? We do targeted enforcement astatine ICE.

It took a squad of much than a twelve officers 7 hours to apprehension six group …. and that doesn't see nan galore hours spent searching for them.

Cecilia Vega: So really would it moreover beryllium imaginable past for ICE to apprehension a cardinal group successful this state if that wide deportation scheme were to return effect?

Matt Elliston: I could opportunity present successful Maryland, we would ne'er beryllium capable to assets aliases find th-- find that magnitude of detention, which would beryllium our biggest challenge. Right? And conscionable nan magnitude of money that that would costs successful bid to detain everybody-- you know, it be, you know, at-- astatine nan Department of Defense level of financing.

Jason Houser: It's insane to deliberation astir it astatine this benignant of scale.: 

Jason Houser, ICE main of unit during nan first 2 years of nan Biden administration, says it costs $150 a nighttime to detain group for illustration those we saw arrested. The mean enactment arsenic they await deportation is 46 days. One deportation formation tin costs a 4th of a cardinal dollars. And that assumes nan location state will judge them…. Many for illustration Cuba and Venezuela seldom do.

Cecilia Vega: ICE presently has immoderate 6,000 rule enforcement agents. How overmuch manpower would it return to apprehension and deport a cardinal people?

Jason Houser: You're talking, 100,000 charismatic officers, constabulary officers, detention officers, support staff, guidance staff

Trump advisor Stephen Miller has said unit could travel from different authorities agencies for illustration nan DEA. 

Jason Houser: The thought that you're gonna return nan FBI, aliases nan Marshal Service, aliases nan Bureau of Prisons, aliases nan Security Service, aliases FEMA disconnected of their ngo sets that protect-- and protect our communities will not make america safer.

Immigration enforcement requires specialized training and connection skills that astir subject and rule enforcement officers don't have.

Cecilia Vega: There's this chat retired location that makes it sound for illustration it's conscionable an easy swap.

Matt Elliston: It is not an easy swap. So-- what I tin show you in, from nan Immigration and Nationality Act, migration rule is 2nd to nan U.S. taxation codification successful complexity 

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Cecilia Vega: We person seen 1 estimate that says it would costs $88 cardinal to deport a cardinal group a year.

Tom Homan: I don't cognize if that's meticulous aliases not.

Cecilia Vega: Is that what American taxpayers should expect?

Tom Homan: What value do you put connected nationalist security? Is it worthy it? 

Cecilia Vega: Is location a measurement to transportation retired wide deportation without separating families?

Tom Homan: Of people location is. Families tin beryllium deported together.

Monica Camacho Perez and her family interest astir that. They person lived and worked successful nan state since coming illegally from Mexico much than 20 years ago.

Cecilia Vega: What scares you nan most?

Monica Camacho: I deliberation of-- of my nieces and my nephews that they're gonna get separated from their parents. 

They made a life successful Baltimore wherever Monica, who's 30, teaches English arsenic a 2nd language.

Monica Camacho Perez: We are a normal family, for illustration anybody else, right? We spell to church. We work, each day. We salary taxes

She's among nan much than 500,000 undocumented immigrants brought to nan state arsenic children who are protected from deportation nether nan Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program- known arsenic DACA.

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Monica Camacho Perez: I'm nan only 1 correct now that's, like, protected, while my parents are not, my brothers are not. My brothers have-- children that are calved here. So if they were to get deported, what will hap to their kids. Although I person my life here, I deliberation that I would return nan determination to spell backmost pinch my parents, to return attraction of them.

Cecilia Vega: You would?

Monica Camacho Perez: Yes.

Cecilia Vega: You ain a location here. This is nan metropolis you grew up in.

Monica Camacho Perez: But…They're besides portion of my American dream. And I can't ideate surviving present without them.

Like Monica's nieces and nephews…more than 4 cardinal U.S.-born children unrecorded pinch an undocumented parent.

Cecilia Vega: Why should a kid who is an American national person to battalion up and move to a state that they don't know?

Tom Homan: 'Cause their genitor perfectly entered nan state illegally, had a kid knowing he was successful nan state illegally. So he created that crisis

While Homan ran ICE -- successful what became 1 of nan astir arguable policies of nan Trump administration-- astatine slightest 5,000 migrant children were forcibly separated from their parents, who were prosecuted for crossing nan separator illegally.

Cecilia Vega: You've been called nan "father of Trump's family separation policy." How does that beryllium pinch you?

Tom Homan: Not true. I didn't constitute nan memorandum to abstracted families. I signed nan memo. Why'd I motion nan memo? I was hopin' to prevention lives. While you and I are talkin' correct now, a child's gonna dice successful nan border. So we thought, possibly if we prosecute people, they'll extremity comin'.

And if Trump wins a 2nd term?

Tom Homan: I don't cognize of immoderate general argumentation wherever they're talkin' astir family separations.

Cecilia Vega: Should it beryllium connected nan table?

Tom Homan: It needs to beryllium considered, absolutely.

Cecilia Vega: Do you deliberation a wide deportation scheme would deter different group from coming to this state illegally?

Monica Camacho Perez: No, I don't deliberation so. Regardless, group are still going to effort to travel for a amended life.

Produced by Andy Court, Annabelle Hanflig, Camilo Montoya-Galvez. Broadcast associate, Katie Jahns. Edited by Craig Crawford.

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• Immigration
• U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
• Undocumented Immigrants
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